What's your favorite Piano, acoustic or digital?

Category: Jam Session

Post 1 by Darth Vader (Luke, I am your father.) on Sunday, 11-Dec-2011 14:42:47

Hey all,

This is something I've been wonder about for a while. What's your favorite type of piano, acoustic or digital, and of those two catigories, what brands do yo prefer?

Personally, I go for a really nice acoustic upright piano, or maybe a digital grand. The brand I really like for both is yamaha because of it's sound.

Your Thoughts?

DV

Post 2 by Darth Vader (Luke, I am your father.) on Sunday, 11-Dec-2011 14:44:51

BTW, I'm not a real sticlar about certain brands. Again, I only ask for your opinion of you're willing to post it here. If not, no big deal.

DV

Post 3 by louisa (move over school!) on Sunday, 11-Dec-2011 15:46:49

Hello, I like the acoustic piano. But I do think the digital piano is quite interesting, because of all the various options available. It's interesting to play around with, and see what a person could come up with.

Post 4 by forereel (Just posting.) on Sunday, 11-Dec-2011 16:02:16

acoustic , if you are looking for true sound. They can be different depending on the kind. A Gran Stineway is a beautiful thing to play, and some of the antique ones that have been restored are just lovely.
Not the brand, but older gran's.
Digital is simply that recordings of acoustic pianos. :) You can't tune the wood on them to sound a given way. They don't feel like the acoustic as far as playing goes.

Post 5 by DRUM GODDESS (I can't call it a day til I enter the zone BBS) on Sunday, 11-Dec-2011 20:31:58

I absolutely love the sound of a grand piano. Acoustic pianos are definitly my favorite by far but the digital one's are easier to move to and from gigs and you can get a variety of sounds in most of them.

Post 6 by mat the musician (Help me, I'm stuck to my chair!) on Sunday, 11-Dec-2011 21:52:55

Acoustic is the way to go if you want a real piano sound, a digital has sample piano sounds, but none of them can compare to a real piano. A steinway grand is a great piano. I got to play it once, and the for short time I was playing, I was temporarioy transported to music heaven. It's delicious musical ear candy.

Post 7 by Jesse (Hmm!) on Tuesday, 13-Dec-2011 11:36:26

I like the feel of a yamaha C series grand, and they really get to sounding amazing up around the C6. I like old Steinways before the 1960's when they made the action feel lumpy, but Baldwins have a very consistent action. Honorable mention goes to Kawai's KG and RX series, and the best I've ever played was a Schimmel signature series, but they're hard to come by.
As for digital, I like Roland's new key action with the escapement, and Yamaha has got something great with the AvantGrand. As for samples though, nothing beats Kurzweil's beastly piano samples for standing up in a mix, although they aren't extremely realistic.

Post 8 by Darth Vader (Luke, I am your father.) on Thursday, 15-Dec-2011 17:31:01

I hear ya guys there. I personally love love love an acoustic piano. nothing beats it. I've got a yamaha upright in my room, and it's got a nice warm tone.

Post 9 by tango hopper (the captain of the bitches and slaves and all slavines.) on Friday, 23-Dec-2011 9:44:24

hi, my favourite piano is digital piano with sfx, sound effects.
on it i play television game show tunes.

Post 10 by Darth Vader (Luke, I am your father.) on Saturday, 24-Dec-2011 11:56:22

I can see why, too. you just can get things like that from an actual acoustic piano, and, they're easier to record, too. but if you're a purrest like me when it comes to instruments, I'm all about the acoustics.

Post 11 by LeoGuardian (You mean there is something outside of this room with my computer in it?) on Saturday, 24-Dec-2011 13:45:57

I used to be a snob about that stuff. Anymore? If I was gonna get me one and get back into it? I'd get a digital.
A regular piano = very large investment, you need to keep the house at a very regular temperature all the time, tune it regularly which is $100 a pop anymore, etc.
And if you buy the old ones, as I did, and then work professionally, you have to get the action regulated, etc.
My chops really ain't what they used to be, and I do mean really: not like you younger people say when you miss two practices either.
There is nothing like an acoustic piano, and that can be either good or bad.
But as to the digitals? It's not the 1980s anymore: the sounds are really pretty authentic, and the velocity controls technologies they employ let you extract an amazing amount of tone out of them. I got out of the industry before wavetable was really modularized the popular, though of course I played on rigs like the Roland FP-8 which had every key sampled.
Again, a few years ago, I was shocked at what I was able to do on a digital piano tonewise.
You'd definitely need to drop a chunk of change for your board and your cabinets / amplifier, but once you did, you don't have to tune it every 3 to 4 months.
That said, playing the grand my mother still has, that's a gem, even if I'm not that good anymore.

Post 12 by Darth Vader (Luke, I am your father.) on Monday, 26-Dec-2011 15:26:02

true that. I'd like to get a digital if I can. any suggestions?

Post 13 by Deadnight Warrior (Zone BBS Addict) on Wednesday, 28-Dec-2011 21:29:18

I love the acoustic piano sounds on my board, but I really prefer to use the other electric piano sounds on it instead. Why try to immitate something that will most likely never be done perfectly? I consider myself a "synthesist" instead of a "pianist," so I usually prefer something electric over an acoustic instrument. Still, playing a really good piano is a beautiful thing and I jump at the chance to play one whenever it comes up. Anyway, I also own an old upright that I love to death. It's really not a great instrument, but it is still my favorite. I feel that boogie woogie is my greatest strength when the time comes to be a pianist, and I love the "honky tonk" sound of that old thing.

Post 14 by CrazyMusician (If I don't post to your topic, it's cuz I don't give a rip about it!) on Thursday, 29-Dec-2011 7:53:47

I have had both, but I am not really a snob. I received a very nice basic Roland digital piano for my birthday about 15 years ago. I parted with it when we moved and my husband kept his promise to me to get an upright piano when we bought our house. It's a Yamaha (can't remember the series name). The ironic thing is that it was a middle-of-the-road price-wise but sounded better than some of the more expensive ones. Also, the thing I thought was amusing was the same piano in the store with a different colour finish sounded COMPLETELY different.

Post 15 by LeoGuardian (You mean there is something outside of this room with my computer in it?) on Thursday, 29-Dec-2011 12:48:51

The thickness and style of the finish does totally change the sound. There is good physics behind that one: a satin finish is more flexible and allows the wood fibers and their cellulose to vibrate evenly. A lacquered or thicker finish will cause the vibrations to produce a lot more of a brittle or bright sound. Not at all strange to me.

Post 16 by Remy (I've now got the silver prolific poster award! wahoo!) on Thursday, 29-Dec-2011 14:44:51

I was just given a Casio HL 280 I think it was for Christmas. With my growing interest in audio editing and production, my mom thought it would be a great gift, so when my wife and I got to her place, there it was waiting for us. I have a ton of music in my head, but only a very very basic ability to express it. This keyboard however can be hooked up to my audio editing software to allow for editing. So I can fake being able to play music. One day I hope to learn for real. So far this one's a pretty good keyboard.

Post 17 by CrazyMusician (If I don't post to your topic, it's cuz I don't give a rip about it!) on Thursday, 29-Dec-2011 18:34:25

TBG, send me a pqn or a PM and I could give you some pointers... I'm not SO out of practice that I forget theory :)

Post 18 by Remy (I've now got the silver prolific poster award! wahoo!) on Thursday, 29-Dec-2011 19:15:54

right now I need to learn the basics. I get hand placement, but I still lack the coordination to follow through. I'm a hunt 'n pecker, but I know if I ever get the placements and chords figured out I could write some pretty great stuff.

Post 19 by Darth Vader (Luke, I am your father.) on Friday, 30-Dec-2011 14:21:41

it's all about practice, practice, and yet more practice when it comes to that. My advice is this: if you haven't taken any lessons, do so. You'll find that you'll be a much better player overall when you do. If you don't have the money for formal lessons, find some books that let you teach yourself and a fingering chart if you can. I'm a self-taught pianest myself, so I could also give you some tips on expression and how I use it when playing things.

Post 20 by Remy (I've now got the silver prolific poster award! wahoo!) on Friday, 30-Dec-2011 16:07:54

I'd definately be interested in finding some tutorials if nothing else. I certainly don't have the money for actual lessons, but these days there are alternatives.

Post 21 by Darth Vader (Luke, I am your father.) on Friday, 30-Dec-2011 19:32:23

you might try
http://www.expertvillage.com,
http://www.youtube.com
or perhaps
http://google.com
You should get some material there.

Post 22 by LeoGuardian (You mean there is something outside of this room with my computer in it?) on Friday, 30-Dec-2011 21:24:41

Agreed with the practice practice practice. Scales, chords, exercises, you got to build up the muscles and coordination. Speaking as one who is embarrassingly out of chops now, and probably won't be getting back in shape in that area any time soon. It takes a lot of time and effort but it's well worth it.

Post 23 by Darth Vader (Luke, I am your father.) on Saturday, 31-Dec-2011 15:55:37

I find it best to do major scales, then minor, then chromatic. Chords comes last. I do mainly major, minor and sevenths--major, minor and dominent, but diminished chords are beyond me, both hole and half.

Post 24 by Remy (I've now got the silver prolific poster award! wahoo!) on Saturday, 31-Dec-2011 15:57:09

I agree. It's not something I ever thought I'd want to get into. But I have just enough talent to know if I learned, I'd be able to make some awesome music. With audio editing software I could at least fake being able to play, but I'd much rather just be proficient at it for real.

Post 25 by Deadnight Warrior (Zone BBS Addict) on Saturday, 31-Dec-2011 22:51:31

I think that having an actual person to at least give you a few tips and pointers would be really helpful. I was pretty much self taught for seven years; I would just learn stuff by ear but I never read any books or stuff like that. When I started working with a piano instructor a few months ago, it was like a whole new thing for me. He had to get rid of all of my bad habits.

Post 26 by Remy (I've now got the silver prolific poster award! wahoo!) on Sunday, 01-Jan-2012 18:00:01

Yes, having someone around certainly helps. My wife used to play, so she's been teaching me a little here and there.

Post 27 by Darth Vader (Luke, I am your father.) on Sunday, 01-Jan-2012 19:07:47

keep it up, guardian. Keep asking your wife to tips and pinters. Do you know your fingerings for major, minor and chromatic scales? If not, learn them. Ask your wife to sow them to you.

Post 28 by Remy (I've now got the silver prolific poster award! wahoo!) on Sunday, 01-Jan-2012 19:50:54

I know the basic finger positions. Minor chords are a bit difficult for me at the moment. But I'll get there. Knowing some of the terminology will also help.

Post 29 by Darth Vader (Luke, I am your father.) on Wednesday, 04-Jan-2012 12:05:17

Hmm. I could show you a bit over skype if you don't mind. I own a piao myself, so it wouldn't be too difficult to show you a few chords and terms.

Post 30 by Remy (I've now got the silver prolific poster award! wahoo!) on Wednesday, 04-Jan-2012 14:12:54

Thank you for the offer. Unfortunately at the moment I don't have access to it. We need to get it shipped here to the island where I live. I'm hoping that won't take too long.

Post 31 by LeoGuardian (You mean there is something outside of this room with my computer in it?) on Wednesday, 04-Jan-2012 14:29:05

Hand position and fingerings have got to be learned right, or you will get stuck when you start trying to do complex passages.
Also, music theory is your friend. Without learning the underlying principles you will not be able to successfully compose beyond a very narrow set of styles. Just some thoughts.

Post 32 by Remy (I've now got the silver prolific poster award! wahoo!) on Thursday, 05-Jan-2012 20:33:57

You're right. Sounds like I have my work cut out for me.

Post 33 by Darth Vader (Luke, I am your father.) on Friday, 06-Jan-2012 16:57:24

that's what I'd say. before chords and terms and the like, learn the theory. It helps a lot.